Slay the Spire II Initial Thoughts with Spoilers
Expanding on the Spoiler Free thoughts I had a week ago. Putting the rest in an expandable block, (in case you want to not see).
(For reference, I have cleared Ascension 7 with all characters but the NecroMancer, and have now played a half dozen ish games of co-op, including a brutal floor six loss.
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When I said “I liked what was missing” I was referring to:
A) Cards that double, like Catalyst or Limit Break. Because often those cards provide such massive scaling (being geometric) that they are often auto-selects in in archetype using it (and are sometimes worth taking “blind” in hopes of getting poison/strength). Sadly there is at least one new doubler (Voltaic) and it does indeed solve the endgame by itself (with one upgrade and any support).
B) Huge swing cards/artifacts (like Corruption or Biased Cognition) that have an outsized value. Those particular two are still there, but are no longer “mere” rare card rewards but boss relics, which seems reasonable. Both are also been reduced in value because some of their complements (Dead Branch and artifact charges, respectively) are missing.
It’s an early access game, so the card balance is off in a few points, but overall I still like it. In particular:
- Focus being mostly until end of turn (Defragment is still in, but rare) means the defect’s most solid and boring build is gone. The temporary focus cards are interesting, and with more cards that load up orbs (or evoke) make a nice change.
I agree with the complaints that the elites do not feel notably distinct from the hallway fights. One of the the things that Slay the Spire 1 nailed was that different fights attacked different deck archetypes (mostly with Boss/Elite fights, but not always). For example “Time Eater” destroys card spam. “Reptomancer” requires a bunch of fast All out attack. Big Giant Head took out decks that dish out consistent damage but can’t scale, etc. The game lobbed Bombs in the Jonathon Degann game design sense.
You do see that, for example “Entomancer” punishes a bunch of small attacks. But the “Hunter Killer” hallway fight punishes card spam. Too many of the Act I elites are kind of “samey” … the game is missing (for example) having to deal with Gremlin Nob crushing skill decks and needing to hit it for ~80 before the end of T3. It’s just “bigger numbers.” The Bygone Effigy feels like the worst offender on that. You need to do the same by T3, but if you fail it’s just brutal death.
Part of the problem is that the relic pool is a bit “meh.” It’s good that the card pool is such that you can make a build to kill the Act III boss and then just grab a potion for a weakness, and that you then skip a few elites to lower variance. But that could get boring (and Asc 10 is double final boss, so that’s an issue).
But that’s a balance issue. Also, I do like the events that are “here are two choices that may both be bad, and no you can’t skip.”
Co-op: Have played (2p) and I stand by my earlier comment, its well done, considering. Some fights are much easier, some fights are much harder (the Phantasmal Gardners can absolutely tank a run early if you aren’t prepped for them), but I’ve mostly won (granted my co-op ascension is still quite low). The co-op only cards seem wildlly unbalanced, but that’s ok.
Anyway, still enjoying it.
